Sophie vs. Jay: Relevant Capitalism

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On Christmas Eve, two eccentric minds met for the first time and among many other things, this Challenge Blog was birthed. This Challenge Blog also rings in the new year with the first one of it’s kind that does not involve any of the OurThursday authors. So any readers that feel the need to challenge me, their mother, their three legged cat, or neighbor… please send your requests to [email protected] and I will let you know how this goes down.

The Prompt

In 300 words or less, explain why the  traditional concept of capitalism is no longer relevant or indeed, is relevant.

The Challengers

Sophie – Cantankerous genius who has lived several more lives than the rest of us.

Jay – Intense philosopher of life, finance, and spatial worm holes who is not afraid to shoot someone with a crossbow.

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Response From Jay

“Capitalism should not be condemned, since we haven’t had capitalism. A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank. Capitalism cherishes voluntary contracts and interest rates that are determined by savings, not credit creation by a central bank. It’s not capitalism when the system is plagued with incomprehensible rules regarding mergers, acquisitions, and stock sales, along with wage controls, price controls, protectionism, corporate subsidies, international management of trade, complex and punishing corporate taxes, privileged government contracts to the military-industrial complex, and a foreign policy controlled by corporate interests and overseas investments. Add to this centralized federal mismanagement of farming, education, medicine, insurance, banking and welfare. This is not capitalism!

To condemn free-market capitalism because of anything going on today makes no sense. There is no evidence that capitalism exists today. We are deeply involved in an interventionist-planned economy that allows major benefits to accrue to the politically connected of both political spectrums. One may condemn the fraud and the current system, but it must be called by its proper names – Keynesian inflationism, interventionism, and corporatism.”  (Ron Paul)

It is these systems, not capitalism that must be addressed and rejected.  Our future freedoms and prosperity depend on it.

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Response From Sophie

Capitalism should have been a natural offshoot of democracy, For a democracy to work it needs an open government. “Of the people , by the people, for the people”.

To pay for the infra-structure of democracy it needs funding. The  naïve assumption of the early implementers was that those that profited the most would contribute the most to it’s continued thriving. It was thus left to benevolence and charity and assumed an ethical and fair mindset, this did not work because of greed and selfishness, so taxation  and tariffs were “invented”.

Capitalism has never been effectively regulated by any force but the market. i.e.. “sell to the people, by the rich, for the profit of the rich”  So since the “Robber Barons” of last Century, to the “Savings and Loan crisis”  of last century, to our current Fuck-up, we notice that many who benefit the most from capitalism spend the most to avoid such contribution  by avoiding/evading taxation and regulation and demand “self-regulation”

Capitalism is now the Ouroborus of productivity,  that having consumed Democracy,  is now hell bent on consuming itself to the sole profit of the increasingly fewer yet increasingly more bloated world corporations,  riding on their loopholes are the un-ethical who feel entitled to a “free ride”, and the lawyers accountants that support these constructs.

So Capitalism was never really relevant, it was merely a convenient euphemism for the shysters that the good old fashioned bandits, highwayman, pirates and brigands used to call themselves. That we allow the fox to guard the hen-house is our own fault.

You can have my other 41 words if you want them

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Comments

18 responses to “Sophie vs. Jay: Relevant Capitalism”

  1. Matt Zbrog Avatar

    “That we allow the fox to guard the hen-house is our own fault.”

    That line won the argument. In fact, it was the only line that was necessary.

  2. Sheik Abdul Avatar
    Sheik Abdul

    What Fox and what Hen House? Sophie’s argument is a long running list of fallacies beginning with the notion of democracy. The USA isnt a democracy, it’s a republic… duh.

  3. Matt Zbrog Avatar

    @sheik: oh i didn’t realize this was about american capitalism. thought it was global. my bad.

  4. Sheik Abdul Avatar
    Sheik Abdul

    It doesn’t matter if USA or World ZBROG. You statist enslavement lover. What matters is that someone tried to attack my dog last night with a machete and based on your comments, I have good reason to believe it was you. Why were you running after my dog last night waving a machete dressed as Ronald McDonald?

    If it wasn’t you…then tell me who it was, so I can cast a spell on his azz!!!!!

  5. Miranda Avatar
    Miranda

    Support Anti Capitalism! We need more taxes and state control! The people can’t be trusted… their lives must be controlled from birth till death by the state!

    Thank You Sophie for summing up my feelings exactly.

  6. Elvis Avatar
    Elvis

    The winner is obviously Jay. Sophie’s argument reads like a reactionary piece of nonsense… that is hard to decipher logically since it isn’t clear what the author is talking about.

    For example… the author states… “…our current Fuck-up, we notice that many who benefit the most from capitalism spend the most to avoid such contribution by avoiding/evading taxation and regulation and demand “self-regulation””.

    In terms of our current “fck up” as the author calls it…. the housing bubble was borne about by policies emanating from washington and the federal reserve… not the market (or capitalism) (but from a command economic model).

    The author is equating capitalism with forces that have nothing to do with capitalism. In free market capitalism, you do not have federal reserves per se, nor do you have politicians creating Fannie and Freddies.

    Furthermore… the people demanding “self regulation” more than any… is the federal reserve which is an unelected body that acts in total secrecy.

    Sophie goes on to state…. “So Capitalism was never really relevant, it was merely a convenient euphemism for the shysters that the good old fashioned bandits, highwayman, pirates and brigands used to call themselves. That we allow the fox to guard the hen-house is our own fault.”

    This is a complete nonsense paragraph. The “guards” of the Henhouse are the politicians currently who have co opted the free market and capitalism… to build a system that protects and enriches themselves… at the expense of capitalism and the people.

    Capitalism is more relevant now than ever… it is the state that is irrelevant and has/is proving itself to be outdated and corrupt… not capitalism.

  7. Fred Jones Avatar
    Fred Jones

    Look… I woke up this morning in my house… in the middle of my living room… in a fucking Canoe!!!!!!! (and I don’t own a canoe).

    When I went into the kitchen… there was a fucking Owl sitting on top of the fridge!!!!!!!!

    I was also wearing a thong.

    I don’t know much about nothing, but there’s some weird shit going down man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. Matt Zbrog Avatar

    I want to hear more from Fred.

  9. sophie Avatar
    sophie

    As we used to say “I don’t know what he’s on, but can I get two?”

  10. sophie Avatar
    sophie

    Having just taken one, I now feel myself in a hen-house surrounded by people with money values written on their hats , one says 10/6d, . . duh , i figured it out, I’m in some sort of tea-party !!

    (note to self, fuck that, I wish that thinking would go away. stop taking that opiate )

  11. Fred Jones Avatar
    Fred Jones

    I’m gonna start walking around nude. Jay won this blog and the only answer is to start walking around nude.

    I have a nice sized donger and it should be seen.

    The Owl is flying around…. an insurance salesman showed up…. should I buy Life Insurance?

  12. Sheik Abdul Avatar
    Sheik Abdul

    How much does Sophie charge for sex? I would like to bang her in the ass. Is she hot?

  13. Sophia Lambous Avatar
    Sophia Lambous

    I can’t believe the voters behind Sophie are attacking Jay
    by dressing up as Ronald Mcdonald with Machetes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have
    u people no shame??????? What does it say about your argument…
    when defending it… means running around with a machete dressed as
    Ronald McDonald??????? Are u people crazy??????????? Attacking dogs
    in a Ronald McDonald suit with a machete…. is a bit nuts. I hope
    more people agree with Jay….. Sophie’s fans are nuts.

  14. john davinci Avatar
    john davinci

    Its clear… Sophies votes come from uneducated libtards.
    no biggie… let them eat cock for breakfast. They have already
    ruined the country…. stupid fucks.

  15. jane far Avatar
    jane far

    I guess ZBROG is a moron. lol… ZBROG speaks for
    morons.

  16. Fred Jones Avatar
    Fred Jones

    I’m going to my neighbors house to show them my donger. Wish me luck.

  17. sophie Avatar
    sophie

    I suspect that Fred and the Sheik need to rein-involve them selfs. sometimes alter egos become self evident. If it walks like a duck. talks like a duck and shits like a duck, it’s probably the same duck.

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